Design Matters with Debbie Millman: Steven Heller & Veronique Vienne
Steven Heller is an art director, educator and author of over 100 books on design. Veronique Vienne is a writer and editor and author of several best-selling books including The Art of Doing Nothing, The Art of Imperfection, and The Art of The Moment. (04.07.06)
On Design Observer: http://observermedia.designobserver.com/audio/steven-heller--veronique-vienne/9097/
On iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/design-matters-debbie-millman/id328074695