Design Matters with Debbie Millman: Marty Neumeier
Marty Neumeier is a brand consultant and author of Brand Gap, Zag and The Brand Dictionary. (02.16.07)
On Design Observer: http://observermedia.designobserver.com/audio/marty-neumeier/9237/
On iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/design-matters-debbie-millman/id328074695