Mike Bithell, a name that many equate the the voice of independent video game developers lends it to appear on the 69th episode of The Sausage Factory. We go through his history of being encouraged to make games from a very young age. He was also one of the first people to attend a game design degree and then went on to work for larger studios before striking out on his own to make Thomas Was Alone. Now he has just released Volume, a game that show host Chris ORegan first encountered at EuroGamer Expo 2013. Now, two years later, Volume is out and Chris chats to Mike about it as well as Metal Gear Solid V.