Greater Than Code

098: Designing For Inclusion with Jenny Shen

Greater Than Code

In this episode, Jenny Shen talks about not giving a f*ck and why that’s okay, design and UX for international users, paid mentorship, and the intersection between privilege and open source. Panelists: Jamey Hampton | Jessica Kerr | Sam Livingston-Gray Guest Starring: Jenny Shen: @jennyshen | jennyshen.com Show Notes: 01:51 – Jenny’s Superpower: Not Giving a F*ck and Sticking Up For Others The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck: A Counterintuitive Approach to Living a Good Life 05:00 – Living a Remote Lifestyle and Cross-Cultural Communication 08:34 – Design and UX For International Users / Research for Local Users 18:08 – Designing to Include All People: Is it possible? 27:07 – Paid Mentorship Sunk Cost Fallacy 34:32 – Offering Mentorship Scholarships 37:15 – Privilege and Open Source Ruby Together 40:22 – Advice for People Looking to Freelance and Work Remotely   Want to help make us a weekly show, buy and ship you swag, and bring us to conferences near you? Support us via Patreon! Or tell your organization to send sponsorship inquiries to [email protected]. Reflections: Jamey:  Weaponizing the sunk cost fallacy for themself. Sam: The importance of humans in tech and tech culture. Jessica: The difference between internationalization and localization. Jenny: Scholarships as a way to signal and inform other people what she values and what she wants to promote. Are you Greater Than Code? Submit guest blog posts to [email protected] Please leave us a review on iTunes! This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep of DevReps, LLC. To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode. To make a one-time donation so that we can continue to bring you more content and interactive transcripts like this, please do so at paypal.me/devreps. You will also get an invitation to our Slack community this way as well. Amazon links may be affiliate links, which means you’re supporting the show when you purchase our recommendations. Thanks! Transcript: JAMEY:  Hello everyone and welcome to Episode 98 of Greater Than Code, a very exciting number. I'm one of your hosts, Jamey Hampton and I'm here with one of my great friends, Jesitron. JESSICA:  Yey! JAMEY:  Jess has a last name but I just blanked on. JESSICA:  [Laughs] JAMEY:  She's done it to me like a hundred times, so I don't feel bad. JESSICA:  Right, because you are [crosstalk]. SAM:  [Laughs] JAMEY:  Jessica Kerr. I got it. JESSICA:  Thank you. That's okay. Twitter as the unique ID, totally useful and I'm happy to be here today with geek Sam, also known as Sam Livingston-Gray. SAM:  Yey! It's so great to be back. Thank you, Jessica and I am super pleased to introduce our guest today, Jenny Shen. Jenny Shen is an independent Senior UX and Product Designer who has worked with startups and globally recognized brands and she's received the Top 40 Under 40 honor from Girls in Tech Taiwan. She's given speeches and workshops in more than 10 different countries and has lectured at National Tsing Hua University and Simon Fraser University. She loves helping newcomers in UX to grow and she has a mentorship program to make that happen. In her spare time, she also advocates for diversity and works on global strategy as the Regional Director of EMEA at Ladies that UX, an international non-profit organization active in over 50 cities around the world. Jenny, welcome to the show. JENNY:  Hi, everyone. I'm excited to be here. JESSICA:  Yey! Are you from Taiwan but now you're in Amsterdam? JENNY:  Yeah. I was born in Taiwan and also I have a background of moving abroad, living in different countries but now I am in Amsterdam. JESSICA:  I want to ask more about that but I know Sam is excited to ask the important question. SAM:  Yes. Jenny, what is your superpower and how did you acquire it? JENNY:  My superpower, in my understanding,

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