101: A Difficult Conversation with Sonia Gupta

Greater Than Code

• Episode: 101: A Difficult Conversation with Sonia Gupta
• Website: Greater Than Code
• Feed URL: https://www.greaterthancode.com/feed/podcast
• Duration: 00:53:39
• Published: 2018-10-17 07:00

In this episode, Sonia Gupta and the panelists have a candid conversation about white supremacy and standing up for your beliefs, advocating for others while staying in your own lane, intersectionality, and who has to ultimately do the work. Panelists: John K. Sawers | Jessica Kerr | Jamey Hampton | Coraline Ada Ehmke Guest Starring: Sonia Gupta:@soniagupta504 Show Notes: 02:02 – Sonia’s Superpower: Talking about white supremacy and dealing with the fallout. 05:27 – Feeling Rightness and Motivation to Stand Up for Your Beliefs 10:15 – Seeing Your Advocacy and Efforts Make a Difference 12:17 – When People Disagree 16:26 – Ingroup vs Outgroup Empathy 21:17 – Intersectionality White Fragility: Why It's So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism 26:07 – Navigating Situations with Empathy 28:25 – Staying In Your Own Lane While Advocating For and Amplifying Others 35:39 – Educating Yourself About Race So You Want to Talk About Race Other Resources from Sonia: Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race The History of White People    Damon Jones on racism Adrian Jackson on "not all white  people"   38:39 – Doing The Work   Want to help keep us a weekly show, buy and ship you swag, and bring us to conferences near you? Support us via Patreon! Or tell your organization to send sponsorship inquiries to [email protected]. Reflections: Jessica: The place for these conversations is not Twitter! Coraline: Personalizing advocacy. Jamey: Our advocacy is powerful because it comes from a place of passion. John: The fixed vs growth mindset in regards to racism. Sonia: We can all be advocates and we can all be actors.   Are you Greater Than Code? Submit guest blog posts to [email protected] Please leave us a review on iTunes! This episode was brought to you by @therubyrep of DevReps, LLC. To pledge your support and to join our awesome Slack community, visit patreon.com/greaterthancode. To make a one-time donation so that we can continue to bring you more content and interactive transcripts like this, please do so at paypal.me/devreps. You will also get an invitation to our Slack community this way as well. Amazon links may be affiliate links, which means you’re supporting the show when you purchase our recommendations. Thanks! Transcript: JOHN:  Hello and welcome to the Greater Than Code, Episode 101. I'm here with Jessica Kerr. JAMEY:  Good morning. One hundred and one, yay! I'm happy to be here with Jamey Hampton. JESSICA:  Thank you Jess for your enthusiasm and I'm also happy to be here with my friend, Coraline whose name doesn't start with J. CORALINE:  Oh, no -- 'Joraline.' JESSICA:  Joraline? CORALINE:  Joraline. And our guest today is 'Jonia Gupta.' No. I am so excited about today. Our guest is Sonia Gupta, a dear friend of mine. Sonia is currently a software developer in Denver. Prior to becoming a developer, Sonia was a lawyer in Louisiana. She served as a public defender in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina, then as a prosecutor and finally, as an assistant attorney general doing torts and civil rights litigation. Sonia is an outspoken advocate of diversity and inclusion in tech and in life. She's passionate about fostering empathetic and effective communication on engineering teams and believes that even if tech can't always change the world, technologist absolutely can. Sonia, thank you so much for joining us today. SONIA:  Thank you so much for having me. It's really an honor to be with all of you. CORALINE:  Sonia, we always start out our episodes by asking our guest a simple question, what is Big O Notation? I already made that joke. I can't make that joke again. JESSICA:  Just make the same joke every week until we actually start asking about Big O Notation. CORALINE:  Yeah. SONIA:  I have an answer for you. CORALINE:  Oh... SONIA:  It's a thing that is not important to know durin...