103: The Org You Were Born Into with Marcus Blankenship
In this episode, Marcus Blankenship talks about wanting to be in management vs. just ending up in management, the idea of organizational alignment and not agreement, defining the word “boss”, and the up/down managerial hierarchy.
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Panelists:
Jessica Kerr | Jamey Hampton | Sam Livingston-Gray
Guest Starring:
Marcus Blankenship: @justzeros | marcusblankenship.com
Show Notes:
01:12 – Marcus’ Superpower: Helping Engineers Become Good Bosses
02:30 – Bosses Who Don’t Wanna Boss: Ending Up in Management
The Peter Principle
10:37 – Are there people who just aren’t cut out for management or leadership?
14:20 – Applying Rationality to Organizations
20:23 – Alignment Not Agreement
24:52 – Is there a safe way to try and fail at management? Trying on Hats
Ruby For Good
31:16 – What does “BOSS” mean?
Outliers: The Story of Success by Malcolm Gladwell
36:03 – The Up/Down of the Hierarchy
Metaphors We Live By
Humble Inquiry: The Gentle Art of Asking Instead of Telling by Edgar H. Schein
36:03 – What are the skills that good managers have? How do you know if you’re doing a good job?
Managing Humans: Biting and Humorous Tales of a Software Engineering Manager by Michael Lopp
Managing the Unmanageable: Rules, Tools, and Insights for Managing Software People and Teams by Mickey W. Mantle and Ron Lichty
53:26 – Giving and Receiving Feedback and Support, Reinforcing Behavior, and Focusing Attention
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Reflections:
Jamey: Management vs. leadership.
Sam: “I need this from you,” vs. “Why didn’t you do this?”
Jess: When we react to something, it’s rarely about the thing we think we’re reacting to.
Career narratives by Will Larson
Additionally, management is like being on stage and you can be uncomfortable in your own role.
Marcus: Listening to others is critical and impactful. Also, letting people taste and see what it’s like to be in management and leadership without the commitment.
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Transcript:
JESSICA: Good morning. Welcome to Episode #103 of Greater Than Food. I am here today with my friend, Jamey Hampton.
JAMEY: Thank you, Jessica. I think that maybe, you just made a typo out loud.
JESSICA: I never typo out loud.
JAMEY: But maybe, this is actually Episode 103 of Greater Than Code and I'm also here with my friend, Sam Livingston-Gray.
SAM: Why don't we split the difference and go out with a fishy theme and call it Greater Than Cod?
JAMEY: It's a good compromise.
SAM: Right. Enough of that. I'm pleased to introduce our guest today, Marcus Blankenship. Marcus has been a team lead, software manager and CTO for the better part of 19 years. He believes that every programmer deserves a great boss and he's working to build the next generation of technical leaders. Companies like Box, Netflix, PayPal and Atlassian hire him to help their best engineers become great leaders and build h...